{"id":75,"date":"2007-06-18T09:37:00","date_gmt":"2007-06-18T13:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rawtop.com\/blog\/?p=75"},"modified":"2007-06-18T09:37:00","modified_gmt":"2007-06-18T13:37:00","slug":"should-bubble-bottom-slut-stop-barebacking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rawtop.com\/sex\/2007-06\/should-bubble-bottom-slut-stop-barebacking","title":{"rendered":"Should Bubble Bottom Slut Stop Barebacking?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in the beginning of January &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/rawtop.com\/sex\/2007\/01\/hole-id-like-to-seed.html\">Bubble Bottom Slut<\/a>&#8221; started a blog about his sex life called &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/bubblebttmslut.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"bbs\">Staying Faithful and Being a Slut<\/a>&#8221; where he tells all about the sex he&#8217;s having behind his boyfriend&#8217;s back. (He has an interesting definition of &#8216;faithful&#8217;)&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, since January 10th, he&#8217;s gotten fucked 90 times with a condom. In 43 of those encounters the guy came in his ass (in the rubber). It should be mentioned that most of those encounters were in sex clubs where he&#8217;d offer his ass to whoever he thought was hot&#8230; He also got fucked bareback 9 times by guys he was pretty sure were neg &#8211; getting 7 loads of cum in his ass in the process. Plus his boyfriend has fucked him bareback 8 times and shot in his ass 4 times (which explains why he&#8217;s looking elsewhere for sex).<\/p>\n<p>If you read his blog he&#8217;s been a bit conflicted about barebacking with guys other than his boyfriend. He likes it, but he&#8217;s worried about the risk he&#8217;s taking. It should be mentioned that if he became poz he might have issues with his career &#8211; so becoming poz is a problem for him on many levels&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>A lot of his readers are telling him to stay &#8220;safe&#8221; and always use rubbers. But my contention is that he&#8217;s safer when he&#8217;s barebacking&#8230;  Why? For two reasons &#8211; 1) He doesn&#8217;t know anything about the guys who fuck him with condoms but he does a good job vetting the guys who bareback him &#8211; he makes them get tested before they can fuck him raw, and 2) Condoms fail 10% of the time&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In other words, having 90 strangers fuck you with a condom and taking &#8220;safe&#8221; loads from 42 of them is the equivalent of having backing your ass to a glory hole and having 9 guys fuck you bareback and getting anonymous loads from 4 of them. Mind you, he&#8217;s had a lot more fun over the past 5 months than he would have backing his ass up to a glory hole one or two nights (risk vs. reward), but my point is &#8211; there&#8217;s still some significant risk&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s go into more detail&#8230; What I&#8217;m about say is based on an article in the January 2002 issue of <span style=\"font-style:italic;\">Journal of Sexually Transmitted Diseases<\/span>, entitled &#8220;Reducing the Risk of Sexual HIV Transmission: Quantifying the Per-Act Risk for HIV on the Basis of Choice of Parnter, Sex Act, and Condom Use&#8221;. It was written by researchers from the Division of HIV\/AIDS Prevention-Surveillance and Epidemiology at the <abbr title=\"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention\">CDC<\/abbr> in Atlanta. I encourage people to read the <a href=\"http:\/\/graphics.ovid.com\/ovftpdfs\/IDNJHKKOHEAOFL00\/fs046\/ovft\/live\/gv023\/00007435\/00007435-200201000-00007\">entire article<\/a>. The article doesn&#8217;t have new findings, but it&#8217;s a compilation of what was known at that point&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><abbr title=\"In My Humble Opinion\">IMHO<\/abbr>, the most important part of the article is the table at the top of the second page. To figure out how much risk you&#8217;re taking you take a number from each of the three columns and multiply them together and then compare the results.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s take the two scenarios for Bubble Bottom Slut&#8230; <\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style:italic;\">Getting fucked &#8220;safely&#8221; by strangers<\/span> has the following risk factors &#8211; 43 for gay sex with a person of unknown HIV status, 100 for receptive anal and 1 for using a condom. <br \/><span style=\"font-style:italic;\">Total score: 4,300<\/span> (though I&#8217;ll discuss the 43 below)&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style:italic;\">Getting fucked bareback by someone you&#8217;ve vetted pretty well<\/span> &#8211; 1 for gay sex with someone who has had a recent, negative HIV test, 100 for receptive anal, and 20 for not using a condom. <br \/><span style=\"font-style:italic;\">Total score: 2,000<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So just looking at those numbers it seems he&#8217;s more than twice as safe when he barebacks than he is when he&#8217;s taking &#8220;safe&#8221; loads from strangers in sex clubs.<\/p>\n<p>But it gets worse&#8230; If you read the article closely they discuss how they came up with the 43 number &#8211; it&#8217;s based on an assumption that 10% of the people you&#8217;re having sex with are positive. Having sex with a HIV+ person has a risk factor of 430 &#8211; 43 is 10% of 430. Bubble Bottom Slut is having anonymous encounters at a gay sex club in San Francisco. Mind you it&#8217;s not the rauchiest of sex clubs, but the percentage of poz guys is probably more like 30-40% (and that&#8217;s a conservative estimate). <\/p>\n<p>That means his risk is 3-4 times higher than we thought, and instead of being about twice as safe when he barebacks, he&#8217;s actually 12 to 17 times safer barebacking than he is having &#8220;safe sex&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But it gets even worse&#8230; If you read the article carefully you&#8217;ll see that they say the risk factor (20) for not using a condom is based on a 5% failure rate for condoms (1\/20 = 5%), but they say you only achieve a 5% failure rate when the condom is used perfectly. The real failure rate is around 10% (some studies say as high as 13%). So that means in reality his risk level needs to be doubled again and <span style=\"font-weight:bold;\">he&#8217;s actually about 25 times safer getting fucked bareback than he is having safe sex<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>If Bubble Bottom Slut tested HIV+ today, based on his activity since January 10th, it&#8217;s far more likely that he became positive from the &#8220;safe sex&#8221; he&#8217;s been having than the little bit of barebacking he&#8217;s been doing.<\/p>\n<p>Put another way, he could have had his vetted bareback fuck buddies cum in his ass over 1,000 times and not taken the risk he&#8217;s taken getting fucked &#8220;safely&#8221; by the 43 strangers who&#8217;ve used rubbers when they shot their wads in his ass&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Even if you&#8217;re skeptical of the accuracy of those numbers, the point is that he&#8217;s a lot safer getting fucked bareback by negative guys than fucked &#8220;safely&#8221; by strangers. It&#8217;s the reason why the <a href=\"http:\/\/rawtop.com\/sex\/2007\/02\/san-francisco-department-of-health.html\" target=\"sfdoh\">San Francisco Department of Health promotes the concept of serosorting<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The important part in this scenario is for Bubble Bottom Slut to really know and trust his tops&#8230; When I say &#8216;know&#8217; what I mean is that he wants tops who are doing low risk activity (which can include being a bareback top with negative bottoms). My advice to him is to find 100% tops who never bottom&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>The reason I say find 100% tops is because those of us who don&#8217;t bottom are at much lower risk. Insertive anal has a risk factor of 13 &#8211; compared to 100 for receptive anal &#8211; so it&#8217;s 7.7 times safer.<\/p>\n<p>Frankly, &#8216;serosorting&#8217; will probably work better for him (as a bottom) than it will for me (as a top) because he&#8217;s so careful. I tend to trust what people put in their profiles or say something like &#8220;your neg, right?&#8221; He actually goes through a lengthy process where he makes them go get an HIV test. He is actually doing serosorting properly &#8211; I&#8217;m a bit lazy with it.<\/p>\n<p>So, if you&#8217;re one of the people encouraging Bubble Bottom Slut to &#8220;be safe&#8221; and use rubbers, you&#8217;re actually telling him to engage in high risk activity. He&#8217;s actually a lot safer with his <span style=\"font-style:italic;\">vetted<\/span> bareback fuck buddies. <\/p>\n<p>The question is whether he&#8217;d be as satisfied with a sex life where we was only getting fucked by a few, well vetted guys. He seems to like public sex with strangers. And if he&#8217;s going to be engaging in public sex with strangers, then he&#8217;s being as safe as he can be by using condoms when he does it.<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line, he should stop worrying about the little bit of bareback sex he&#8217;s having &#8211; it&#8217;s low risk. If he wants to reduce his risk, he should start by cutting down on all the strangers who are fucking him with condoms&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in the beginning of January &#8220;Bubble Bottom Slut&#8221; started a blog about his sex life called &#8220;Staying Faithful and Being a Slut&#8221; where he tells all about the sex he&#8217;s having behind his boyfriend&#8217;s back. (He has an interesting definition of &#8216;faithful&#8217;)&#8230; Anyway, since January 10th, he&#8217;s gotten fucked 90 times with a condom. 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