Three Sides Of A Stealth Breeding Story
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26 July 2008 | 12 Comments
UPDATE: It’s now a month or so after the gangbang. The bottom got an HIV test and he’s negative. That means chances are he really is negative and what happened at the gangbang was of no consequence. Just reminder – this is all hearsay – it could be the guy who said he was poz wasn’t poz at all, but just playing some sort of weird game. Or it could be the bottom was lucky that night… Who knows.
Just a reminder: I have no clue which parts of this story are the closest to the truth. It’s three sides to a story and the truth is in there somewhere. Or it could just have been a matter of different people having different perceptions of the situation…
So the gangbang a couple weeks ago where I got the video of me fucking the guy with my PA… Well, it’s gotten even more interesting… Turns out the bottom took a poz load that night despite the fact that the organizing top had promised him to screen the tops and only have neg tops fucking him…
First I noticed the bottom had changed his HIV status on Manhunt from “Negative” to “Don’t Know”. I asked why and he said…
well a) since i figured thats a more accurate representation and b) since i found out that one of the guys who bred me at the gang bang is poz and lied about his status to get in
Needless to say that peeked my interest, so I inquired further, asking the organizing top what happened…
it was a guy that I had been talking to for over a week… about loading guys, etc. I originally asked his status and he said he was unsure. Told me that for weeks.
So we continued talking afterward and then it came out that he was actually poz. To our knowledge, he is not on meds (according to him) and he wouldn’t give us info on his viral load. So not sure. He claims that he told us he was poz, but he didn’t.
Then the bottom told me more…
his name is *** on here [Manhunt]. he was the second load i took.
honestly, although most of the time i was doing it in very controlled situations (but not always), i have been bbing for such a long time that it is of course possible that i’ve taken poz loads before and not known it. however, this guy’s attitude was so appalling. he lied to get in to the gangbang and he was completely unapologetic about his blatant decision to knowingly do that to me. he is an unhappy, bitter person. that affected and upsets me more than the fact that he was poz.
Notice how he doesn’t say the guy told him he didn’t know his status… Curious. Personally, I view “don’t know” as riskier than “poz” since at least with poz you can ask their viral load…
In another email the bottom said
of course i realize the risks of taking loads. still, thinking about that guy, about how he would just blatantly lie like that and not care at all about the consequences…and how he could be so young and so bitter… that type of thing just makes me sad.
It sounds like he’s pretty mad at the poz guy, right? Well, that’s where it gets a bit more complicated…
I knew the poz guy – he’d been hitting me up to fuck him and I just hadn’t found the time. So I shot an e-mail off to him asking about it and mention the bottom seems pissed. He says…
he and i have spoken extensively on the topic. he wants to hang out again but hes not sure when. he doesnt seem THAT angry to me.
Who knows if that’s true or not… It is suspect given that the whole thing started with him not being fully open about his HIV status…
Then the bottom tells me…
yeah, i’d like to try to stay neg. i’ve managed to take loads for years without turning poz…we’ll see what happens at my next test. i know that part of that is luck, but part of it is screening and seeing if i trust the person (which i can’t do if i’m letting someone else set up a gang bang). of course on rare occasions i’ve also done things like take random loads from guys at the park or in nasty vid stores, etc, which clearly has virtually no control or screening.
one of the ways i dealt with the stress of finding out about all of that was to sexualize it. i’ve never been into the “bug chaser” scene at all. but my friend *** [his “master”] helped spur me on to jo-ing about getting fucked by that guy. he was actually one of the hotter fucks of the night – he was fun and mean and had a good cock.
So his master has him jacking off to the idea of taking a poz load… He did the same thing with obese guys – had the bottom get fucked by a really obese guy and then told the bottom he was only allowed to jack off while thinking about getting fucked by that guy. That resulted in the bottom getting turned on by the idea of being used by fat guys, now he’s going to start getting turned on by the idea of taking poz loads.
Now also think about how rough the bottom was fucked that night… I fucked him with the PA and he was hurting from that. The top before me had a huge dick and fucked him really rough. It goes without saying that the poz load got worked in there really well. It’s two weeks later and the bottom feels fine (no “fuck flu”), but who knows…
Since he’s jacking off to the memory of taking a poz load, and he’s thinking of meeting up with the guy again (if you believe the poz guy) – I think the bottom is at a big turning point in his life.
if you ask me these conversations are a bit silly. the #1 rule in sex is always assume the other party is positive and play accordingly. we’re all adults. we cant rely on someone else to dictate our health.
Well, my question is this: if the top who supposedly didn’t disclose his poz status fucked the bottom then he has committed a felony. Why doesn’t the bottom press charges against him?
@btrvisitor – I think (not sure) that NY is a state where it’s not a felony. He didn’t actually say he was neg. Not sure what the laws are here.
Personally, if I were writing the laws, I think it should only be illegal if the poz guy says they’re neg. People need to take responsibility for their own health.
the whole idea of it being a crime to say you are HIV- to someone who is making a conscious decision as to whether or not to allow you to fuck them without a condom is ridiculous..
fucking without a condom is NOT safe and every bottom knows it.. if they say they don’t, they are lying..
if the bottom is 100% negative, it is the BOTTOM’s responsibility to make the top wear a condom if they want to ensure their neg status stays that way..
i do not blame any top who fucks a bottom bare.. if the bottom wants it that way, then the bottom suffers the consequences..
duly noted. RawTop, I am corrected. I did check the laws and New York is one of the FEW states in the U.S. that currently does not have any statutes on its books regarding sex with an HIV+ person. That will soon likely change. Most states now say that an HIV+ person MUST disclose their status to the other person prior to any sexual activity, even if safe sex rules are followed. I do see loopholes with this. What if the + person does reveal his status, the other person consents, and then later recants? It’s just one person’s word against another. I see this one being tested in the courts at some time in the future.
As for the last posting on here, there is the presumption there that the bottom is always the one at risk. NOT TRUE. Just look at the number of poz total tops out there. Raw topping is just as risky as bottoming and to dismiss the likelihood of infection based on sexual position is ludicrous.
Sounds like bottom who had second thoughts after the fact to me.
@bikeguy – actually not so much. he knew it could happen and continued taking load from others afterwards… he has changed his thinking now – he’s not sure if his hiv status and i think that changes you – knowing you’ve taken a poz load…
The bottom definitely was aware of the risks he was taking, so he was prepared from his end. He’s sanguine about the possibility, and he’s accepted the risks he took. The poz top was without a doubt utterly unethical, he lied, and was deliberate about his manipulations. He’s a bug-giver. What he did, is a crime, if you dont put a condom on when you’re fucking and your poz, its a crime, and the bottom could also sue him to recover his future health costs. Incidentally, if the top gave the bottom drugs, then it becomes rape since he’s deprived the bottom of consent. That poz women’s charge in Georgia could be appealed since saliva isnt a method of transmission.
now, on the other side, theres talk about the bottom being ‘lucky’, and the PA working over his hole etc…. Generally, people ARE lucky with HIV, HIV isnt highly infectious, it has to be the right circumstances for hiv to survive into a new host. Even bottoming, the most dangerous sex act, doesnt have a high rate of infection. Being bred by a poz top results in infection a small percentage of the time (wikipedia:hiv) Its still enough though that tonnes of bottoms get it from being fucked.
I agree with ndevelopment. While I do not condone barebacking this person did know what they are doing and knows that it is risky and not safer sex.
well I must have miss read alot then, cuz didn’t this situation have 3 tops all poz? it kinda appeared that way to me… but if I’m wronge I apolligize ahead of time.
as for having sex with non poz people being a crime if u don’t use protection…. then who can they have sex with? since it’s also a major risk to have sex with other poz people too. simply by alllowing the risk of two diffrent HIV strands to combine into a new super HIV strand… and since condoms break there is no such thing as safe sex… safer yes but not safe… just like everytime u drive ur at risk to die in a car accident. it’s a safer fast way to travel but it’s still not safe.