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1. unholy Says:
   

   I find this really sad. Young gay men equate being gay with being poz–especially if you’re a bottom who likes raw cock. This is the idea that lies at the heart of your suggestion that bottoms get infected on purpose by someone who has slow viral progression–never mind that progression may have more to do with immune factors in the person than with the strain of virus, and that many immune factors are inherited. We can’t seem to deal with the duel facts that raw sex is hot, AND that it’s both possible and a good idea to reduce risk. In the U.S., we have some very bad public policy, which essentially forbids publicly-funded entities from discussing gay male sexual pleasure at all in the discussion of disease prevention. But we also have a segment of our community that is willing to sacrifice another generation of us to a social experiment that involves getting infected with a virus and relying on expensive pharmaceuticals to save them.

2. rawTOP Says:
   

   unholy – I generally agree with you. I wish there were an easy way to “save” this generation, but I’m not seeing it… Their seroconverting seems so predictable and unavoidable…

3. ropenrideu Says:
   

   I suspect casual attitudes about HIV are a problem in some younger gays, exactly for the reasons you’ve mentioned – mostly that they don’t see anybody dying with it. My own experience is limited. The two guys I’ve know in that age range were the opposite, downright paranoid about HIV.

   But, there’s a certain group of ads I’ve seen for years on bareback sites of very young guys with really over-the-top attitudes like the guy you interviewed. They keep coming from the same geographical areas, they’ve been under 20 for several years now, and in some cases I’m pretty sure the pic sets are composites. So you may have interviewed a cyberfiction. I’ve had discussions with one kid near here that I’m pretty sure was a cyberfiction.

   IME HIV transmission is coming from meth and lying fuckbuddies. Mostly meth.

4. Eric "ELeven" Leven Says:
   

   The older men of the community who lived through the devistation of AIDS/HIV should be encouraging young men to respect themselves and play safe. It’s a responsibility you should choose to take on to ensure the next generations are always healthier than the last.

   But no, Rawtop, you fetishize bareback sex and lure young, niave kids to take part in a world which is not only unhealthy but also unnecessary. You have the opportunity to HELP these kids but you choose to facilitate unhealthy behavior.

   — From a very concerned and very safe and sex positive young man.

5. rawTOP Says:
   

   Right, like I’m going to tell them to do something I won’t do… That’s going to seem like a genuine message…

6. unholy Says:
   

   I dont’ think the issue is that they don’t see people dying of AIDS so much as that they equate being gay with having HIV. That’s partly the result of the way HIV education has been done and partly because a lot of them are victims of the abstinence-only school of sex ed. Abstinence-only tries to scare them from having sex with men by exaggerating the risk of HIV and by telling them that condoms will fail to protect them (which is untrue, condoms really do work, even if I personally hate them). Meanwhile, there’s a part of the gay community saying the only way to keep from getting HIV is to use condoms all the time, and a part of the community saying you might as well throw your legs in the air and take every load.

   Hardly anybody’s talking about things like serosorting, getting tested frequently and being honest with guys about our status when we fuck, using condoms when we fuck with somebody with a different or unknown status, getting tested and treated for STDs, getting vaccinated for hep A and B (it’s not all about HIV, after all), and thinking seriously about how much risk we’re willing to take. Getting in a sling in a sex club and taking every load is a different risk than taking rawTOP’s load. That’s obvious but it needs to be said. AND getting fucked or fucking raw is hot. Grown-up, intelligent life is about taking risks for pleasure, and you don’t have to go crazy with it.

   So right, rawTOP wouldn’t be so credible telling boys not to fuck bare, but you would be credible saying look, I’m a total top, I get tested frequently, I prefer to fuck neg guys raw (you’ve moved off that one, I think unfortunately), it’s hot to fuck raw, but you don’t have to always fuck raw, etc.

7. hungguy75 Says:
   

   I live in the U.K. This is a sincere enquiry. Are watersports so much a part of the bath house scene in the U.S. now, that guys will regularly piss in your mouth without asking your permission? I’m curious to know.

8. alexb1186 Says:
   

   I just find this sad too. I’m 21, a proven neg bottom, and I’ve only bb’d twice with close friends I’ve known for a long time and have developed trust for, otherwise for manhunt hookups, wrap it up. Like a lot of people of my generation, I became a victim of the “condom Nazi’s” and insisted on condom use cause I have a fear of HIV and I know I’m at a higher risk for it. I’ve never thought of HIV as a gay man’s disease, just that gays are at a higher risk for catching it. I don’t have a casual attitude about it, even though I haven’t personally seen anyone die from HIV/AIDS. Plus, I think the sex ed needs to educate the monetary costs associated with HIV like the big bucks for treatment, that HIV can be expensive. But I discovered barebackjack.com and read about how to have safer unsafe sex, that as a bottom inhibition is ok and I have a right to interrogate tops and ask for proof of negativity. It may turn away a few people, but it’s called looking out for my health and yours too. I still believe serosorting is a good idea, I don’t view it as discrimination, but prevention. To quote from barebackjack “It’s not that I don’t like you, I don’t like your disease.”

9. unholy Says:
   

   alexb1186: THAT’s what I’m talkin’ about! 46 yo proven neg bottom here, too. I don’t make my random hookups bareback, not usually anyway. If I do, I talk about status in mid-hookup if necessary, and behave accordingly. But I’m more likely to ask the top to cum on my face or chest even if we fuck bare part of the time in a random hook-up. A guy I have a chance to build up some trust with, and who’s neg, can have his cum dripping from my ass when we’re done, and I guarantee I will blow a wad over my head. RAWtop: I agree with you if people are saying they’re neg when they’re poz, serosorting is not gonna work. It requires a cultural change, people have to get tested, have to be honest, and have to be OK with changing the script based on the results and comfort level. As for the fact that you like uninhibited bottoms, well you can’t always get what you want. You’re allowed to change what you do over time. The fact that you gave Dawson one of 20 loads is hot. The fact that I live in SF and am watching Jesse O’Toole look worse and worse as time goes on, not so hot.

10. Arnold Says:
    

    BRAVO to chasers of any age…Death is the last and only real adventure left for humanity existing in this era…Watch the history channel in Dec of 2012 a major shift MAY occur which could completely alter human existance, I am POZ now and THANKFUL it finally happened…now there are no more questions, NO MORE FEAR i just have some pills and go about my life…the BEST part about being POZ is the sex,condom free, CONSCENTING, and informed (i am not going to be a hypocrite…ANONYMOUS BB is great too but ONLY in proper settings or by invitation)…NOTE: before i was given the GIFT, I did NOT want it, but now that it is in me and I am LIVING my life, I don’t know what I was so worried about…Sure there have been deaths but HIV/AIDS deaths, in the USA since the 1980’s have evolved to lower severity as a result of better medications…Too bad for those born into 3rd world nations I guess…But that is a problem for the Angie Jolies’ in the world…Where it not for global do gooders, EVERY living species would be held to the “Survival of the fitest”!!!!!!!!! Well I say to my brethren POZ Queers…renew your gym membership…HIV/AIDS has been VOGUE since Elton John, Michael Jackson and Liz Taylor first pinned on a RED RIBBON………Thank You for your inspiration Ryan White, I can’t wait to meet you at the bathhouse in the sky Freddy Mercury………POZ n BB with PRIDE

11. Joshua Says:
    

    I believe I am the “HIM” in this story.

12. Reality Says:
    

    if the antiretrovirals where to suddenly disappear many people would start using condoms like they did in the old days the only reason why people bareback in rich countries with good medical care IS BECAUSE THEY CAN without ever having to face the fear of (NO MEDICAL OPTIONS) take away those options like in many under developed countries and it would be a completely different scenario…. third world countries practice unsafe sex because hardly anyone talks about HIV/AIDS it is such a taboo & there is so much stigma attached to having the virus and countries like AFRICA had governments that where AIDS denialist that is a very dangerous combination the rich countries of the world don’t really know how luck they are.

13. josh Says:
    

    im 18 pozzed got it at 15 wouldnot do different, like bb only way to feel

14. Chris Says:
    

    54 Top here and pretty much only fuck bareback. Love fucking young guys, and married guys and have found that the approx 100 I have fucked since I starting fucking guys around 20 years ago, only literally a handful have demanded a condom.Negative here but such a pleasure to unload in a young boys hole or a married guys hole.

15. Nathan Says:
    

    Im 18 Neg wanna be pozzed

16. Casper from Montréal Says:
    

    I started going to the bath-houses at 15 because it was actually a safe place for me to be considering the situation I was in; the way I needed to earn money; and provided a safe-place from people such as the authorities who had an inconsiderate mind-frame towards people who were in the same situation as me, or pimps and dealers who were out to take advantage of me. It was a good shelter from the cold and a place to keep my personal belongings and shower etc.
    I was a bug chaser already at that time but it wasn’t because “barebacking is the only way to go” or because it was hot.
    Barebacking has changed over the years. In my teenage years it was more like a community. It is no secret that the discrimination I faced as a teenaged prostitute with no money and homeless in the streets of Montréal came mostly from the people who were supposed to be the people who were supposed to help me. The gay “community”. The shallow and superficial personalities that were governed by steroids, material object, credit card debt and popularity made me a sort of “low class” pauper that would tarnish the plastic image of anyone that would come into contact with me. Judgement ruled reasonable understanding and Prada sunglasses were more important that myself having a meal offered to me on a cold night. The barebacking party and play community were a group of people who wanted to free themselves from the judgement and labels thrown at them from the mainstream gays. Old; young; twink; daddy; bear; fat; skinny; Asian; sick; piggy; dirty, whatever you were it didn’t matter. It was about personality, friendship, bonds and the only time you were able to feel good about yourself and appreciated by the company around you who you connected with because you had something smart to say, rather than the size of your chest and how many abs you were sporting. Contracting HIV was inevitable and a topic of discussion in a light positive way. When it happened you were ready for it mentally and you knew where to go and what to do about treatment and such. Most of all you could talk about it with your peers instead of having to hide it. When PREP came around you started finding young misinformed men who wanted, instead of a safe community, to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted the pleasure with no consequence. This selfish desire and attitude came not only with arrogance and ignorance, it included these men’s minds the inability to handle the unfortunate news of having contracted HIV along with a group of peers who do not want association with people who are ill, the stigma and having to no one to share their emotions with.
    Sorry about the shpeal, I’m not taking anyone’s side or going agains anyone’s eiter. It is my experience and point of view and I just simply feel that it is an angle worth sharing with people so they can think about whether they want to, or not, participate in the beautiful act of promiscuous sex and interactions or simply leave it for the pornos. Cheers! – Casper de Saint-Exupéry

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