UPDATE: It’s now a month or so after the gangbang. The bottom got an HIV test and he’s negative. That means chances are he really is negative and what happened at the gangbang was of no consequence. Just reminder – this is all hearsay – it could be the guy who said he was poz wasn’t poz at all, but just playing some sort of weird game. Or it could be the bottom was lucky that night… Who knows.

Just a reminder: I have no clue which parts of this story are the closest to the truth. It’s three sides to a story and the truth is in there somewhere. Or it could just have been a matter of different people having different perceptions of the situation…

So the gangbang a couple weeks ago where I got the video of me fucking the guy with my PA… Well, it’s gotten even more interesting… Turns out the bottom took a poz load that night despite the fact that the organizing top had promised him to screen the tops and only have neg tops fucking him…

First I noticed the bottom had changed his HIV status on Manhunt from “Negative” to “Don’t Know”. I asked why and he said…

well a) since i figured thats a more accurate representation and b) since i found out that one of the guys who bred me at the gang bang is poz and lied about his status to get in

Needless to say that peeked my interest, so I inquired further, asking the organizing top what happened…

it was a guy that I had been talking to for over a week… about loading guys, etc. I originally asked his status and he said he was unsure. Told me that for weeks.

So we continued talking afterward and then it came out that he was actually poz. To our knowledge, he is not on meds (according to him) and he wouldn’t give us info on his viral load. So not sure. He claims that he told us he was poz, but he didn’t.

Then the bottom told me more…

his name is *** on here [Manhunt]. he was the second load i took.

honestly, although most of the time i was doing it in very controlled situations (but not always), i have been bbing for such a long time that it is of course possible that i’ve taken poz loads before and not known it. however, this guy’s attitude was so appalling. he lied to get in to the gangbang and he was completely unapologetic about his blatant decision to knowingly do that to me. he is an unhappy, bitter person. that affected and upsets me more than the fact that he was poz.

Notice how he doesn’t say the guy told him he didn’t know his status… Curious. Personally, I view “don’t know” as riskier than “poz” since at least with poz you can ask their viral load…

In another email the bottom said

of course i realize the risks of taking loads. still, thinking about that guy, about how he would just blatantly lie like that and not care at all about the consequences…and how he could be so young and so bitter… that type of thing just makes me sad.

It sounds like he’s pretty mad at the poz guy, right? Well, that’s where it gets a bit more complicated…

I knew the poz guy – he’d been hitting me up to fuck him and I just hadn’t found the time. So I shot an e-mail off to him asking about it and mention the bottom seems pissed. He says…

he and i have spoken extensively on the topic. he wants to hang out again but hes not sure when. he doesnt seem THAT angry to me.

Who knows if that’s true or not… It is suspect given that the whole thing started with him not being fully open about his HIV status…

Then the bottom tells me…

yeah, i’d like to try to stay neg. i’ve managed to take loads for years without turning poz…we’ll see what happens at my next test. i know that part of that is luck, but part of it is screening and seeing if i trust the person (which i can’t do if i’m letting someone else set up a gang bang). of course on rare occasions i’ve also done things like take random loads from guys at the park or in nasty vid stores, etc, which clearly has virtually no control or screening.

one of the ways i dealt with the stress of finding out about all of that was to sexualize it. i’ve never been into the “bug chaser” scene at all. but my friend *** [his “master”] helped spur me on to jo-ing about getting fucked by that guy. he was actually one of the hotter fucks of the night – he was fun and mean and had a good cock.

So his master has him jacking off to the idea of taking a poz load… He did the same thing with obese guys – had the bottom get fucked by a really obese guy and then told the bottom he was only allowed to jack off while thinking about getting fucked by that guy. That resulted in the bottom getting turned on by the idea of being used by fat guys, now he’s going to start getting turned on by the idea of taking poz loads.

Now also think about how rough the bottom was fucked that night… I fucked him with the PA and he was hurting from that. The top before me had a huge dick and fucked him really rough. It goes without saying that the poz load got worked in there really well. It’s two weeks later and the bottom feels fine (no “fuck flu”), but who knows…

Since he’s jacking off to the memory of taking a poz load, and he’s thinking of meeting up with the guy again (if you believe the poz guy) – I think the bottom is at a big turning point in his life.

Remember the bug chasing bottom I met up with at IML? The one I did the whipping video of and who wrote up the whole post about how he’s now taking all loads – both neg and poz? Well, he’s in San Francisco this weekend for Dore Alley and he’s looking to continue what he started at IML and get as much cum in his ass as possible…

Here’s what he wrote up…

Cum hungry bottom visiting San Francisco from July 24-31, Dore Alley, new to taking loads of cum up my ass but hungry for as much as I can get.

6 ft, 170lbs, dark bl/beard, and a total bottom. Looking for total TOP MEN only to come by and breed my ass. I’m staying at a hotel in SOMA and I’m also looking for guys who want to join in a gang fuck I’m organizing for Saturday evening in my hotel room. Bring your buddies.

So guys, lets make this week a really good one for him… All you tops in SF get in contact with him and see if you can’t give him a load before he leaves!

He likes the sexual energy of total tops. Mind you, the “dom top” who worked him over during the gang bang at IML was actually versatile, but in “top mode” – so that’s fine with him as well… What really gets him off is being dominated. Taking loads is a totally submissive act for him. But his submission goes way beyond taking loads. He’ll drink your piss, and will get into it if you slap him around. If he trusts you he also gets into being punched and if you leave bruises he’ll be showing them off in a day or two when they’re visible. But don’t get the wrong impression – he’s a really sweet genuine guy which is why I’m doing this post… I like the guy a lot…

So give him what he wants boys and keep his hole nice and cummy this week… You can contact him by sending him an e-mail… henk01@hotmail.com

Just as a reminder of what he looks like here’s a pic I took of him @ IML… Maybe if you hookup with him this week you should take pics or a video…

And here’s the video of me whipping and fucking him… Don’t quite know why, but this video has done really well on XTube – over 176,000 views, and it’s got a perfect 5 star rating!

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UPDATE: Video now included below…
UPDATE #2: The neg bottom took a poz load at the gangbang…
UPDATE #3: The bottom tested neg about a month later…

Well the piss bottom had his gangbang… When I arrived he had the biggest grin on his face. He just couldn’t stop smiling… I’m assuming it was because of the 5 loads in his ass (from 4 different tops) – don’t think he was just happy to see me…

Anway, I got the video camera ready, explained it to the hosting top, we turned on a few lights so the video would come out better and we got started.

I should mention that I had put my PA in that morning after not wearing it for a few months… It’s a pretty big PA – 2 gauge, 1″ diameter. The bottom started by sucking my dick. He did a pretty good job of keeping the metal away from his teeth. But the problem was I couldn’t really face fuck him without my ring hitting his teeth and hurting him… So that didn’t last too long…

I rimmed him briefly (the organizing top didn’t really want me rimming at all – wanted the loads to stay in his ass)… Then I went to fuck him.

Getting the ring in was really difficult. At one point I thought I was in only to realize I wasn’t. I asked for lube, but believe it or not they didn’t have any (go figure – a gangbang with no lube!) Finally I just pushed the thing in with my fingers. [The moral of the story here is to only fuck with a big PA when the bottom is really loose.]

The bottom was in a lot of pain. I was a little worried about tearing him up inside – so on one side I didn’t want to stop and wanted him to get used to it, and on the other I was watching him closely to see if he went from extreme discomfort to any sort of sharp pain. It took a while, but we eventually got him accustomed to it and he was OK. I think part of it was me needing to get hard enough to get the ring in deep enough so it got past the muscular part of his sphincter…

Even when he got used to the PA, it wasn’t a garden variety fuck – it was more like he was enduring it than taking it easily… But as long as I didn’t think I was damaging him I was OK with that… And I gotta admit – the idea of a little bit of minor damage was a bit of a turn on (though not enough that he’d have to stop getting fucked for the evening – he didn’t have enough loads in him and the night was still young)…

So as you might expect, it didn’t take all that long to cum – which was probably a good thing given the punishment his ass was getting…

When I pulled out his hole was just gaping open and all cummy. I put some of the cum on my finger and tasted it. Then got a little more and fed it to him…

Update: Here’s the video of it… I wish you could see his face. You can tell by his grunts and groans he was in pain, but the look on his face was that of endurance more than pleasure…

Things then wound down, I packed up and left. I didn’t really like how it ended with him… The entire scene didn’t have the intensity that I like to have with a sub bottom. The PA and the videotaping were distractions… Oh well… I’ll fuck him again sometime soon…

One other update: I noticed the other day that his Manhunt profile now says “HIV Status: Don’t Know”. I asked and he said he found out one of the tops lied and said he was neg when he was actually poz, so he figured “Don’t Know” is more accurate. Turns out the poz guy was this young guy (who I know ’cause he’s been wanting me to fuck him), probably not on meds (though they’re not sure), and he told them he wasn’t sure of his HIV status, but he inferred that he was probably neg. To me “don’t know” is more dangerous than “poz” since the viral loads can be higher. They let the guy fuck him and then later it comes out he’s actually poz. You gotta remember the top before me fucked him really rough, and then I roughed up his hole with my PA… Hmmm…. It’s two weeks later and he hasn’t gotten the fuck flu… Who knows… It’s sorta par for the course though…

UPDATE (3): It’s now a month or so after the gangbang. The bottom got an HIV test and he’s negative. That means chances are he really is negative and what happened at the gangbang was of no consequence. Just reminder – this is all hearsay – it could be the guy who said he was poz wasn’t poz at all, but just playing some sort of weird game. Or it could be the bottom was lucky that night… Who knows.

So there had been another gangbang that I had said I would go to before I knew about this one – and it was just a few blocks from the first gangbang. So after hesitating a bit I decided to go. I figured if nothing else two gang bangs in one night would be good practice for IML next year…

When I got to that one there were three guys in the room… The bottom was a “beefy” 40 y.o. – you’re typical cumhole bottom. Not nearly as much my type as the first bottom, but an easy fuck.

As I came in he was getting fucked by this really thin black guy… I put down my things pulled out my dick and watched a bit… Then I looked more closely and realized the black guy had a HUGE dick – one of the biggest I’ve seen in a very long time. Possibly the biggest I’ve ever seen. When he pulled out and his dick was just hanging there I kid you not when I say it hung down almost half the way to his knees – at least that’s how it seemed. And on a guy as super skinny as he was the enormity of his dick was just accentuated…

I was getting used to the dynamics of the group when the bottom walked over to me felt up my dick (which seemed tiny by comparison to what he just had in his ass), then he got on all fours on the bed with his ass facing me. I got the hint and started fucking him. But all he seemed to want was a taste and then he changed around and continued getting fucked by the black guy.

I had taken my PA out because I didn’t want complications. I had just cum and wasn’t sure how I’d perform anyway, so wanted to keep things simple. But his ass had been really loose and really well lubed (didn’t know if it was with cum or actual lube). But long story short I knew the PA wouldn’t be a problem, so I put it back in. Figured I needed something to try to compete with the big-dicked black guy.

When the black guy got tired, the bottom presented his ass to me again. By now I was realizing that the bottom wasn’t interested in the third top at all… His choice, so I rimmed him quickly and then stuck my pierced dick in his ass. Unlike the other bottom there was absolutely no problem with it going in…

The bottom was kissing the black guy and sucking his dick while I fucked him. Since I had cum already, it went on and on. At one point things felt good and I wondered if I could cum again, but the orgasm never came.

The bottom was so loose that I was doing stuff to try to keep it interesting – pulling out and shoving back in (with the ring I figured he had to feel that…) But my cock just wasn’t a match for the black guy’s dick (and the dildo I saw on the night stand), so the black guy went back to fucking him…

The black guy just went on and on… Finally I had to piss and when I got done with that I figured it was time to go, so I left… As long as the black guy was in the room he was going to be the one getting all the attention.

So all in all an interesting night…

And last I heard the piss bottom (gangbang #1) got a total of 7 loads. Too bad he didn’t get more, but it seemed everyone wanted to get gangbanged that night. There were lots of Craigslist ads for guys taking loads… I was even contacted by a guy who knew of a hot 28 y.o. who was getting gangbanged. Told him I already had two gangbangs lined up. He actually wound up being load 5 for the the piss bottom. Apparently he had a big dick and fucked the bottom really rough (maybe that’s why the bottom had a huge grin on his face when I walked in – he had just gotten fucked by the rough top). They were surprised when I told them the guy was versatile…

But too many gangbangs in a night is a great problem for us tops…

I got up this morning and saw an ad on Craigslist that made me VERY happy… The top who organized the gangbang a couple weeks ago (the one where there’s the pics of me giving the bottom his 17th load) is organizing one for the piss bottom I fucked and videotaped a couple months ago.

I think I mentioned he stopped taking loads after I fucked him back then… Then for the next month or so he was pretty tortured wanting it, but scared of it… Then a couple weeks ago he and his master told me he’s back at it taking loads, and now he’s taking loads in a gangbang…

The Craigslist ad is pretty clear…

CUMDUMP needs TOPS to UNLOAD TONIGHT! – 30 (Midtown West)

Looking for raw/bb tops to cum dump a load. In a hotel near Penn Station. Send age/stats/pics and status in your email!

We’ll start around 5pm and go until…?

Door will be unlocked. Walk in, fuck him bare, cum in his ass and go. ALL loads go in his ass. If you can nut a second time in a short period… cool… otherwise, leave and come back later to dump another load.

We prefer that you don’t rim… want all that cum in his ass and sloppy for the next dude to slide in easily. 🙂

IF you are able to help out with the room, it would be greatly appreciated! Just hand the host (me) whatever you can contribute. If you can’t contribute, no problem… we still want your cum. but know, anything helps!

Bttm is 30, six foot two, 170lbs tall/slim/athletic and neg!

Some pics of the action may be taken (no faces). If you don’t want them taken, just tell me. No big deal.

keywords: seed, cum, bb, bare, bareback, load, anon, pump and dump, uninhibited, raw

I love the way it says “…tall/slim/athletic and neg!“… Sort of a funny way of wording it – like being neg is the cherry on top of the ice cream… In the most recent ads (1, 2) there’s no mention of him being neg at all, though they do ask for people to tell them their status. However even that was dropped from the very last version of the ad which simply said…

Looking for bb/raw tops to dump a load… taken 6 so far…

30, six foot two and 170lbs, athletic and toned

cum in, dump your load and go

Back a couple months ago when the bottom stopped taking loads I flat out told him that wouldn’t last – that he’d be back at it. He said the certainty in how I stated it turned him on – and what do you know he did go back to it. But this time he seems less hesitant. It’s like he’s thought about things and he’s just giving in and being the sub bottom he knows he is deep down…

The other day he told me he was going over to take a load from the Brazilian I fuck on a regular basis… It’s one thing to take a load from a total top, but something completely different to take a load from a guy who usually bottoms himself – someone who sees how many loads they can get in a day… I mean one day my load was the 7th one the Brazilian got up his ass… And that was all during the day on a weekday…

So if he’s taking loads from bareback bottoms something has definitely changed in the piss bottom’s thinking the past few weeks. It’s a good change ’cause it suits the kind of bottom he is.

When I started chatting with him today and he was a bit nervous ’cause this is a big step for him. He said “the top is screening so that he has a reasonable sense of the guys’ neg std status.” So I think he knows the risk, but is still trying to minimize it… I told him he’s a serious sub bottom and that being a urinal and cumhole suits him… He knows I’m right and said he got hard when he read that… By the early afternoon he wanted to get more loads than than the guy who got 20 loads the other day.

I know it’s late notice – but let’s see how many tops we can get breeding him… You can contact the top through the Craigslist ad, or through his Manhunt profile (‘tops4bbgangbang’), or by e-mailing him – btownguy20@yahoo.com – let him know you heard about it here.

If you have any problems contacting him, e-mail me your details and I’ll make sure you get invited. I really want to see this bottom get a lot of cum and become more of the cumhole and urinal bottom he is deep down. It really does suit this guy…

Oh, and if you do show up – give the top some money. He’s paying for the room and doesn’t have a lot of spare cash himself…

Just as a reminder – here’s the video of me and the bottom…

BTW, if you piss on him he’ll like it even more, but it will piss off the organizing top and possibly other tops that come after you… Still, the bottom really likes to be degraded – so it’s a good topic when you’re whispering in his ear while your breeding his ass…

Just thought I’d give some publicity for BareBottom1980 (the blogger in Omaha) who’s got a top whoring out his ass this Saturday, Juy 5th… Here’s the description from the Craigslist ad the top put up…

I’m arranging a cumdump gangbang session this Saturday, July 5, for a bottom bud of mine. he’s 28, a little on the bigger size body-wise, but he can take your cock like a pro. bang him as hard as you want, he loves it, no load will be refused. we’re getting a hotel room for the action, so a freewill donation of a few bucks would be welcome but not necessary. we’re getting a hotel near 108th and L in omaha

let me say again, no load will be refused, none whatsoever. bring your buddies with you if you want, the more cum he gets the hungrier his hole becomes. we’re looking for raw loads only. the whole point is to get as much seed in him as possible. there may be pictures taken, but they would only be showing your cock, nothing identifiable. its just for his humiliation. if you dont want to do that, no problem, he’ll take your jizz and i’ll take a picture of it leaking out his hole after you pull-out.

looks, age, stats, not as important as willingness to breed. pic is preferred but not absolute requirement.

‘perv4cum’ on BarebackRT is organizing it – he’s a 25 y.o. poz top. BareBottom1980 is neg – you do the math…

If you’re out near Omaha and want to give him a load, you can contact him at barebottom1980@yahoo.com, or you can contact the top on BarebackRT (via his profile or the party listing) or via the e-mail in the Craigslist ad. Literally no load will be refused…

UPDATE: The bottom IM’d me last night while I was offline…

Think that about sums it up…

There was a discussion a while back about whether bug chasers were urban legend or not. Back then I think it was a legitimate question. Now I think you can say pretty definitively that bug chasers do exist – and some of them even have blogs…

• There’s Matt & Dan who seem to be competing to see who can get pozzed first.
• Then there’s BareBottom1980 (the bottom for this gangbang) who’s showing that heavy guys can be bug chasers too…
• Probably the first one was Cosmaz who may not have considered himself a bug chaser at the time, but chronicled his experiences a few years ago when he was using meth, going to sex clubs, and wound up poz as a result.

The other day I almost wrote up a post ’cause I saw two bug chasing ads on Craigslist on the same day.

I think bug chasing has existed for a while, but most guys didn’t want to associate themselves with the term – like the bottom from IML… But now that some of them have blogs it means bug chasers are getting their voice, which will lead more guys to being willing to identify themselves as bug chasers… It’s like they’re coming out of the closet, just as barebacking came out of the closet a little over 10 years ago…

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Well, last night I went to the gangbang I told you guys about the other day… It was really pretty hot…

I had had a busy day and was a little tired when I got home. I really wanted to rest for a little bit before going to the gangbang. But it was around 9pm and the top who was organizing it said the bottom had been taking loads since 5pm, had 13 loads in him, and was starting to wear out, so I took a quick shower and left…

When I got there the metal security bar (the one that replaces the chain they used to have on hotel doors) was blocking the door – keeping it ajar… I open the door and it’s pitch black inside. The only light is coming from a laptop on the desk. I’ve got big pupils and can see pretty well in the dark, but I was having trouble seeing clearly… There was no way the top could really check out what the guys fucking the bottom were like. A general idea, sure, but there was no way he was seeing them all that clearly… This was a definite anonymous breeding session…

The bottom had a thin fabric blindfold on. His body was hot as shit (you could see shapes in the darkness – though I never did see his face clearly)… There was another top laying on the bed with the bottom, feeling up his hole and his body. I saw the young top who was coordinating the gangbang and he told me he now had 16 loads in him that the top who was on the bed and me would be loads 17 and 18… He also told me that he had already given the bottom two of his own loads and the other top that was there had given him one earlier in the evening…

The bottom was really pretty incredible. He had a perfect, lean, defined, post-twink body. He was shorter than me (which I like), and his ass was simply amazing… The perfect perky ass…

Since the other top wasn’t really doing much, I got on the bed, spread the bottom’s ass and started rimming him. How is it that bottoms with loads in them don’t taste like cum when you rim them? I don’t get that… He had 16 loads in him, but I didn’t taste anything even when I was sucking on his ass. He just had a squeaky clean ass – no real taste at all…

Oh well, that didn’t stop me from wanting to fuck him. I got his hole nice and wet with spit and shoved in… [BTW, thanks to the flash, you actually see more in the pics than I was able to see in the dark – even after my eyes adjusted.]

Pushing in his hole seemed a bit dry, but as soon as I was in I could tell he had loads in him. His ass was really silky… Cum really is the best lube!

The other top that was on the bed just sorta laid there and watched. It was so dark he didn’t really disturb me (you can see his leg in the pic above). The bottom’s hole just felt so good…

Needless to say, it didn’t take me long to cum. I hadn’t cum in a few days and had a nice big load built up. After I came I rimmed him some more. This time I tasted a little cum.

Afterwards the other top started playing with him again, and I talked for a bit with the hosting top. Then another guy came in the room. This one seemed pretty young and was pretty hot himself. He stripped down naked (great body) and went over to the bed where the other top stepped aside to let him breed the bottom. The hosting top and the other top were sorta feeling the action. Frankly, I wanted to fuck the new young top… He had an awesome ass and there were times he was on all fours with his ass near the edge of the bed. But I hate being disturbed when I’m fucking a bottom, so didn’t want to bother him…

The two of them fucked in all sorts of positions – he had him on his belly, legs up, in a spooning sort of position, it kept changing over and over. The top had great stamina and the fucking went on and on. At one point I noticed the top was whispering stuff in the bottom’s ear. I wanted to hear what he was saying so I went over to that side of the bed. Still couldn’t hear much of what was being said but I did hear him tell the bottom “I’m gonna breed you…” Whatever he was saying it was turning the bottom on.

Finally the young top did cum (load 18), got dressed, chatted a bit with the host, and then left. It wasn’t until he was over by the computer that I could sorta see his face clearly. He really was cute – but it was so dark in there I’m sure plenty of tops came and went without anyone really seeing them clearly.

The other top finally started fucking the bottom and appeared to cum (load 19). Then I took another turn fucking the bottom. For some reason his hole didn’t feel as good this time – not that it was bad in any way, just not quite as good. I pounded him a while and then realized I wasn’t going to be able to cum, so I pulled out.

I needed to go meet my boyfriend who was out with friends, so after a few words with the hosting top I left…

I believe the young top who hosted it when he says the gangbang was about a neg bottom taking neg loads. But it was certainly set up in a way that facilitated a completely different type of scene, and not all the tops with accepted party invites on BarebackRT said they were neg – one said he was “undectectable” another one said “ask me”. Not knowing the bottom I can’t really say what his intentions were – other than to get lots of cum in his ass.

And he did get a lot of cum in his ass – 20 loads from 15 tops.

So you do the math and figure out for yourself what that gangbang was about and it’s implications… There’s a lot of ways to read what happened…

The top really gets into organizing gangbangs. If you’re neg and serious about wanting a similar scene – send him an e-mail – btownguy20@yahoo.com…

UPDATE: I knew I’d seen the bottom’s pics online before… Found his profiles on BarebackRT, Manhunt and Adam4Adam. On BarebackRT you can specify your status and the status of the guys you want to hookup with. He said he was “Negative” and said “No Preference” for the guys who fuck him. I think the second part says volumes…

Anyway, we exchanged a few e-mails – sounds like he’d be up for it again, but wants a top to host/organize… If any of you are interested let me know…

And if you bred him that night – let me know… Would be interesting to hear more about that night…